Fox Business host Maria Bartiromo lowered the boom on leading Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber, whose name has become a verb, “Grubered,” meaning you’ve been duped and deceived, after videos surfaced of the progressive leftist MIT economist bragging that Americans are “too stupid” — that they had to be lied to about Obamacare in order to ram the 2,700-page incomprehensible behemoth down their collective throats.
The fiery exchange became ignited when the arrogant Gruber rudely told Bartiromo that the many real world CEO’s who regularly appear on her show citing Obamacare as the main reason for them not hiring new employees don’t matter because his “data” says otherwise (see video below).
MARIA BARTIROMO: I’ll tell you what is a fact. A fact is that economic growth is 2% or lower. And the fact is, one of the reasons that economic growth is as low as it is, it is because businesses are not hiring workers and not doing [economic] activity because of the cost of Obamacare. That is a fact. Do you dispute economic growth, ten years after the economic crisis?
JONATHAN GRUBER: Economic growth is as rapid as it’s been in eight years, okay. We’re coming out of recession and Obamacare is irrelevant to economic growth. Please! There is no evidence at all. You are totally making a non-facts-based argument. There is no evidence at all that Obamacare has anything to do with economic growth.
BARTIROMO: Jonathan, it is very hard to believe you after what you said after this law first came out that Americans are stupid and that you needed a stupid public to get this law through. In fact, let’s roll that bite. Listen to this, Jonathan. Here’s what you said a few years ago.
GRUBER (2014 video): Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. And basically call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever but basically, that was really really critical to get the thing to pass.
BARTIROMO: So we’re stupid and that’s why you were able to pass this legislation through?
GRUBER: Maria, I deeply regret those comments which were taken out of context.
BARTIROMO: What’s out of context? We just heard you say it? What is out of context about what you said?
GRUBER: What is out of context is that I was at an academic conference conjecturing about something I shouldn’t have been conjecturing about. I made a mistake. I shouldn’t have said that. That doesn’t excuse your denying true facts. You’re making up facts, Maria.
BARTIROMO: Okay, what did I make up?
GRUBER: You made up the fact that Obamacare has caused job loss. There is no evidence.
BARTIROMO: All I need are 10 CEOs to come on this show and tell me that’s the reason and then it becomes fact.
GRUBER: Who cares if some CEO comes on the show and tells you that’s the reason? Look at the data! Maria. You use the word data. Look at the data. There is not a single data point.
BARTIROMO: I don’t need data when I have the CEO telling me, ‘I’m not adding workers because of the cost of Obamacare.’ That is my data! I just spoke to the boss and he gave me the reason!
Gruber actually had the audacity to argue that talking to CEO’s of company’s doing the hiring is not “facts on the ground.” Huh?
Bartiromo continued to scold Gruber, painting him as someone out of touch with reality “who is just looking at a bunch of numbers on the Kaiser website.”
As you can see below, Jonathan Gruber is his usual smug, condescending know-it-all self that he always is. Great seeing Maria Bartiromo smack some common sense into him. You can’t throw 2,700 pages of bureaucracy on an already overregulated health care system and expect prices to go down or quality to go up. Only free markets can accomplish that.